{"id":1839,"date":"2022-09-11T13:04:00","date_gmt":"2022-09-11T04:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/info.coaching-labo.co.jp\/?p=1839"},"modified":"2024-03-11T15:50:39","modified_gmt":"2024-03-11T06:50:39","slug":"freud-jung","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/info.coaching-labo.co.jp\/en\/encyclopedia\/freud-jung\/","title":{"rendered":"What is the difference between Freud’s unconscious and Jung’s unconscious\uff1f"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Let me explain how Freud and Jung viewed “mind\u2026unconscious and conscious” with a diagram.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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I would like to introduce a passage from “Freud and Jung (Dai-san-bunmeisha\/1989),” a dialogue between Keigo Okonogi, a Freudian, and Hayao Kawai, a Jungian.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kawai: The transition of Freud’s diagram is very interesting. It will gradually change. After all, Jung did not write the diagram himself at all. Later, we and his disciples wrote the diagram on our own.
Okonogi: On the other hand, in Freud’s case, he clearly drew the diagram himself, didn’t he?
Kawai: That too has changed, hasn’t it?
Okonogi: In Freud’s case, when it came to the form of his theory, he ultimately had a medical or neurological model, and his premise was something like the anatomy of the brain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Freud depicted the unconscious in the lower half of the space, and the ego devotes a large space in the center, including a partially unconscious layer. So Freud values the “reality principle” of the ego, which tames the unconscious es of the “pleasure principle,” which is anti-social.
On the other hand, if you look at Jung’s diagram, the ego is only a vertex, a very point. There is very little space for consciousness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jung says that most of the mind is occupied by the unconscious, and that the “universal (collective) unconscious” exists at a lower level of the “personal unconscious.
When I asked him why a schizophrenic patient was moving his head from side to side while looking at the sun, he replied that his penis was down from the sun, and when he moved his head from side to side, his penis moved in the same way and that is how the wind blows. Later, Jung would find the exact same description in an old Greek scripture. Patients who cannot read Greek have no way of knowing the scriptures. This convinced Jung that there is a universal unconscious embedded in humanity that is not influenced by individual upbringing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In contrast to Jung, who presented a positive view of the unconscious as the source of “life energy,” Freud rejected Jung’s unconscious as unscientific because it was unique to each individual and viewed it negatively.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thus, Jung left Freud. Jung’s ideas, which were not limited to psychology, would have a profound impact on the world, while also having a spiritual flavor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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